tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7984778625978437479.post3580161373490374137..comments2024-03-28T03:41:06.784-07:00Comments on M.R.O.: A new criterion will be added to the dataset.Rin Choihttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01033604846161090040noreply@blogger.comBlogger54125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7984778625978437479.post-45988539292516063992013-10-30T20:42:08.705-07:002013-10-30T20:42:08.705-07:00looking at all these comments, have either of you ...looking at all these comments, have either of you tried the er4s with red dampers? it lowers the 1-3khz area in a way and some of the whole treble area making it more sloped towards the bass end a tad. how would that compare to the targets you are commenting about?luisdenthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04469981756701648981noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7984778625978437479.post-36064657694608374982013-07-29T13:42:33.954-07:002013-07-29T13:42:33.954-07:00Ok, thanks for letting me know.Ok, thanks for letting me know.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08144186735108633547noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7984778625978437479.post-72627965072385760822013-07-29T09:30:26.808-07:002013-07-29T09:30:26.808-07:00Oh, not at all Mark! I just need to get the headph...Oh, not at all Mark! I just need to get the headphone analyzed first though. Rin Choihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01033604846161090040noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7984778625978437479.post-70828329068457887232013-07-29T08:05:08.064-07:002013-07-29T08:05:08.064-07:00I hope I'm not being a nuisance by asking agai...I hope I'm not being a nuisance by asking again but I would be very grateful if you could find the time to make a Olive-Welti deviation graph for the Sony MDR-7506 based on GE's graph:<br />http://en.goldenears.net/4726<br />I'm going on the assumption that you have an idea of the compensation curve GE used, let me know if this is not the case.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08144186735108633547noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7984778625978437479.post-3037277551502850032013-07-03T13:40:55.497-07:002013-07-03T13:40:55.497-07:00Absolutely, musical enjoyment is the key, and is t...Absolutely, musical enjoyment is the key, and is the sole reason I am running this blog. What good is a headphone, if there is no music? :D<br /><br />I'll do my best to keep the spirit alive and to the proper reference, thnx a lot for all the contributions!Rin Choihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01033604846161090040noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7984778625978437479.post-38158403470441274662013-07-03T12:28:21.811-07:002013-07-03T12:28:21.811-07:00Rin,
Thanks for your reply...
Perhaps more importa...Rin,<br />Thanks for your reply...<br />Perhaps more important to the end user/consumer than the headphones ability to give good raw data, is it's ability to respond well to equalization/end user adjustments.<br />You see, I am of the opinion that if I can buy a good quality headphone that will respond well to some tweaks along the way to my music enjoyment, Then I have fulfilled my true goal.<br />Musical Enjoyment.<br />That Info, along with different effects of peripheral equipment are some of the basic answers that I need as a consumer.<br />I am rambling now...<br />Jim<br /><br />PS Find a Ten'r in the pot for some liquid refreshment. Enjoy the 4th!!!AstroTurfhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09560444845655700701noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7984778625978437479.post-7816772500351047012013-07-03T11:36:47.724-07:002013-07-03T11:36:47.724-07:00"the raw data will live on without any compen..."the raw data will live on without any compensations applied"<br /><br />The Statement of the Year, Jim! The 'modified RR' target that I am currently utilizing is indeed quite preliminary, as it is basically a spectral sum of Harman's quasi-HATS system in a reference room. I am simply using the target, because it certainly marks the beginning of the new era of headphones, jump-starting all the fuss about "the perfect headphones" and so forth. <br /><br />More claims from different parties will arise in the future, emphasizing their own scientific significance. Regardless, the conventional diffuse-field target will always remain as my reference, as it is the correct representation of the resulting orthotelephonic gain(localization characteristic) in accordance to the association model, whether the perceived tonality ends up being bright or not.Rin Choihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01033604846161090040noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7984778625978437479.post-14316187377242987032013-07-03T10:09:42.407-07:002013-07-03T10:09:42.407-07:00Rin,
I understand what you are doing here, your bl...Rin,<br />I understand what you are doing here, your blog, and thank you for it.<br />I would rather not see you swept up with the flavor of the day though.<br />Whether it be your friends or someone elses compensations... They are all subject to change.<br />But the raw data will live on without any compensations applied.<br />If there are multiple compensation theories, shouldn't they all be shown?<br />What is to say that the valued opinions of Olive won't change?<br /><br />Still trying to get a handle on all the stuff, JimAstroTurfhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09560444845655700701noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7984778625978437479.post-86364982225436130542013-07-03T07:37:30.307-07:002013-07-03T07:37:30.307-07:00That sounds great, Jim. I wish I had kept the QSC ...That sounds great, Jim. I wish I had kept the QSC Audio's ABX comparator LOL so that we can do our own experiment as well.. :X Well, some data are scientifically more robust than the others, under a specific circumstance/criterion- and I would like to honor their significance. Can't do all of them, but at least the few I am aware of.Rin Choihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01033604846161090040noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7984778625978437479.post-63866326882041994702013-07-03T05:16:59.696-07:002013-07-03T05:16:59.696-07:00A Whole Lot of Hooey...
I prefer raw data. Then i...A Whole Lot of Hooey...<br /><br />I prefer raw data. Then if Y'All want to add someone else's thoughts for a compensated room why not show them all? And, Not just your favorite one?<br /><br />Two Cents from the Dumb Guy, JimAstroTurfhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09560444845655700701noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7984778625978437479.post-79261278384053140482013-06-12T07:01:32.812-07:002013-06-12T07:01:32.812-07:00I'd just use the green curve, as you are not s...I'd just use the green curve, as you are not sure that your in-ear response is equal to that of ER's Zwislocki coupler. Just my 2 cents.Rin Choihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01033604846161090040noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7984778625978437479.post-79357000435463589382013-06-10T11:37:51.206-07:002013-06-10T11:37:51.206-07:00Am I doing this right? With the ER4S and small tri...Am I doing this right? With the ER4S and small triflanges(maybe 1-2mm short of ref plane) I listen back with filters generated from http://www.etymotic.com/ephp/images/er4_graph_wrfy2.png black line inverted, followed by https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BLL8jFfCAAANeiG.png. Sounds weird until I bypass the first filter.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08144186735108633547noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7984778625978437479.post-22250475599263213152013-06-06T14:14:04.469-07:002013-06-06T14:14:04.469-07:00I am humbled, my dear friend. Feel free to let me ...I am humbled, my dear friend. Feel free to let me know if you have any concern!Rin Choihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01033604846161090040noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7984778625978437479.post-38888859738598295152013-06-06T09:46:28.365-07:002013-06-06T09:46:28.365-07:00It's like I'm finally getting the most out...It's like I'm finally getting the most out of my ER4! It's thanks to your dedication. Hats off to you, Rin!Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08144186735108633547noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7984778625978437479.post-74234065633895453532013-06-05T12:06:39.293-07:002013-06-05T12:06:39.293-07:00That's great!That's great!Rin Choihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01033604846161090040noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7984778625978437479.post-1736526247556378912013-06-05T10:02:35.016-07:002013-06-05T10:02:35.016-07:00So, with the damper correction EQ in place my pref...So, with the damper correction EQ in place my preference is closer to Olive-Welti, but not 100%, that still sounds scooped and murky to me. Right now I like 70/30 Olive-Welti/ER4S reference.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08144186735108633547noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7984778625978437479.post-73146398955392387892013-06-05T10:00:25.710-07:002013-06-05T10:00:25.710-07:00That would be the right assumption.That would be the right assumption.Rin Choihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01033604846161090040noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7984778625978437479.post-42571467472163632032013-06-05T06:52:36.146-07:002013-06-05T06:52:36.146-07:00What you guys talking about is beyond me. But, if ...What you guys talking about is beyond me. But, if i'm not wrong, the modified fq graph of sennheiser ie800 is flatter than i had expected except an obvious dip in 3khz. So ie800's bass is not that exaggerated. right?didilahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07018432309268830258noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7984778625978437479.post-85468864921696485812013-05-29T13:44:11.725-07:002013-05-29T13:44:11.725-07:00I've had some luck with small size Shure Olive...I've had some luck with small size Shure Olives.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08144186735108633547noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7984778625978437479.post-36502818842283825652013-05-29T03:05:12.612-07:002013-05-29T03:05:12.612-07:00Thanks for suggestions, Mark.
I am more inclined t...Thanks for suggestions, Mark.<br />I am more inclined to try very small tips than using custom molds. I live on a rock in the middle of a sea and audiologists here are say "rare".<br />So i was wondering which tips are the smallest and softest ones... Shure olives?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7984778625978437479.post-68013300984590503042013-05-28T19:39:29.085-07:002013-05-28T19:39:29.085-07:00Cool!Cool!Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08144186735108633547noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7984778625978437479.post-7320445768740223042013-05-28T18:48:52.850-07:002013-05-28T18:48:52.850-07:00Ah, maybe this is a good chance to present some an...Ah, maybe this is a good chance to present some analysis on ER's Custom Fit program, with/without damper location adjustment. I have total 4 pairs of the Custom Fit sleeves, with the former two made by Canadian DST Swiss and latter two made by ACS UK. I'll upload the data soon.Rin Choihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01033604846161090040noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7984778625978437479.post-32397298549559814112013-05-28T17:15:05.060-07:002013-05-28T17:15:05.060-07:00Vitaly, you could try some third party tips, such ...Vitaly, you could try some third party tips, such as Shure Olives. Or you could take advantage of the custom-fit program. In such case make sure the lab gets this note: http://www.head-fi.org/t/538615/if-you-still-love-etymotic-er4-this-is-the-thread-for-you/1275#post_9402331Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08144186735108633547noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7984778625978437479.post-13063171473278530272013-05-28T16:29:14.843-07:002013-05-28T16:29:14.843-07:00Small update: My filter preference eventually shif...Small update: My filter preference eventually shifted to 100% ER4S reference + 50% Olive-Welti. Never enjoyed my ER4S as much as I do now. I can't quantify how much insertion depth is affecting my subjective asesment however. Here's what my molds look like: http://i.imgur.com/4wXmxhN.jpgAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08144186735108633547noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7984778625978437479.post-7693791834162851622013-05-28T15:37:24.815-07:002013-05-28T15:37:24.815-07:00Guys, really help me to get er4s deeper into the e...Guys, really help me to get er4s deeper into the ear. I am bound to gliders, as silicone flanges just hurt too much. ANd i tried both frost ones and normal size as well.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com